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published 10 months, 29 days ago, submitted by traskjd 10 months, 29 days ago

mindscape.co.nz — A new version of the popular O/RM framework LightSpeed is up. The new release includes soft delete, polymorphic querying, validation improvements, performance enhancements and even better documentation and samples. And the framework library is still only 125KB.

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posted by gavinjoyce gavinjoyce 10 months, 29 days ago
Cheers for the comment Gavin :)

I'm not sure that just because somebody is new that they're necessarily there to rig it. We sent an email out to customers who have previously purchased LightSpeed that included a link to the story. I understand you're not wanting to have people just join to spam but occasionally you would see people join to kick something (surely people don't join not to kick things?).

Anyway, apologies for causing concern.

Cheers,

John-Daniel
posted by traskjd 10 months, 29 days ago
This website is a collaborative website, it shouldn't be used for advertising.
posted by simoneb simoneb 10 months, 29 days ago
I tend to push any post I make on our blog be it release related or code related and by letting people know that we have (be it with the buttons on our blog that you provide or by word of mouth to them) helps us and helps dotnetkicks by adding to the user base. I've found a lot of value in dotnetkicks and visit regularly and think it's a great resource for all .net developers. Our tools are for developers and therefore our customers are the target audience for this site.

It is pleasing though to see that you're vigilant in trying to ensure a fair system. Lesson learnt - I won't include links to the site in future mail outs.

Apologies guys,

- JD
posted by traskjd 10 months, 29 days ago
Simone, I agree with you, but, isn't this the same as all the Subsonic related stories? the only difference is that this is a commercial software and not an opensource one.
posted by simonech simonech 10 months, 29 days ago
Ok JD, fair enough, actually we didn't create a submission policy to respect yet.

Simone, Subsonic first is an open source project, free for both free and commercial usage, then the posts about Subsonic most of the times talk about and show its features, don't just advertise it.
posted by simoneb simoneb 10 months, 29 days ago
Simoneb, I can see your point regarding features - most of the time our posts are how to do xyz with LightSpeed, this one is a release which does have additional implications in how it gets kicked up. The post does actually detail quite a bit how to use the new features so has some value beyond linking to just a "buy now" page.

Cheers for your comments too simonech.

- JD
posted by traskjd 10 months, 29 days ago
Nice way to build your user base dotnetkicks - drop people/stories that actually try to promote the use of your site!

Back to the release - nice work Mindscape - there looks like some awesome features in there (soft delete will be interesting to play with =) )

James
posted by jamess 10 months, 29 days ago
jamess, we're just trying to keep out advertisers and spammers, do you really find it wrong?
posted by simoneb simoneb 10 months, 29 days ago
jamess, it hardly seems your intentions have been to promote DNK considering you and many others kicking this story have had only LightSpeed-related kicks.
posted by powerrush powerrush 10 months, 29 days ago
As for the spammers - we all hate that - but surely you want to stop the generation of accounts before they are in the system and then have some better rules around how to drop accounts/stories - not purely its rising faster than we expected/I personally dont like it? Why not let the community decide/let a subset of the community decide? (probibly a rather large topic to discuss and I know you guys will be trying hard to suss stuff like that out)

Being that I love P&P and look a lot into O/RM I think that the product Mindscape put together is no doubt the best in its class (when you are starting fresh and taking the Rapid Development type of approach) - they also kindly offer a free version and are a great new .net startup company that needs more press (take a look at the stars on there dev team and you will quickly come to see that they are worth listening too) - a lot of people in the .net world especially struggle when it comes to O/RM/frameworks and patterns etc so it is nice to see this kind of offering finally hit the market place - the word needs to be out there.

I read all the guys blogs and there company blog to keep a pulse on what is going on so when I see something come out with a kick - if i think its worthy I'll give it one. As for stories already on the site I often read them and move on - alternativelly I spend the majority of my time on digg - I actually think its pretty cool of the Mindscape team to promote DNK on there blog rather than go the digg route

Obviously I know these guys as well but hey - how else would a story climb the boards - there has to be some connection somewhere and is the whole point of a site that aggregates content together. You can clearly see it is purely .net related and whether it is company related or opensource is beside the point (reading some of the comments throught the shoutbox channel) - I could post a story like "redfivelabs having .net running on the symbian os family" - no connection what so ever but also company related at the core of it... I could also be a spammer and go around kicking random stories as well as ones I want promoted - does that make me a better DNK community member?

I can see its hard with lots of content to sift the good from the bad/the bad accounts from the legit but being that it is .net related and the DNK community is only starting to grow it is the amount of quality content that will only make it better
posted by jamess 10 months, 29 days ago
Overall I think these stories are doing more good than harm to the DNK community...
posted by jamess 10 months, 29 days ago
After watching this, I'm actually turned OFF by the product.
posted by cdjaco cdjaco 10 months, 28 days ago



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