oops, that was meant to be "his own" not "his one"

Give Frans some credit, he makes a lot of good points in there. As far as maintainability I think we ORM makers have already solved that issue including LLBLGen, I know Frans has created his one LINQ provider and also can generate the LLBLGen architecture. As for our architecture, EntitySpaces, we have added LINQ to SQL support to load our Entities and we generate from the database schema in seconds (modeling comes later). Therefore, you can do full LINQ queries with EntitySpaces and we have NO XML files to mess with or maintain such as the EF does, and we use zero reflection, run on mono, the compact framework, medium trust and so on. To us the ADO EF is just another competitor, sure many will use it, however the market is big and there is room for many. We are not sitting around wondering what the EF is doing, we are moving foward just as we always have. We absorbed LINQ and we are moving on, nuff said.

http://www.entityspaces.net/blog/2008/05/11/EntitySpaces+2008+LINQ+To+SQL+In+Next+Beta.aspx

http://www.entityspaces.net/blog/2008/05/11/EntitySpaces+2008+LINQ+To+SQL+In+Next+Beta+Part+2.aspx

The interesting thing will be to see if Microsoft "accidentally" removes the feature that allows us to leverage LINQ in this way, which is a real possibility. They pulled the ability to return a DataTable from a LINQ query in one of the beta's (hmmm?). The question is now will they track down how we are doing it and eliminate it as well.

Ya, maybe I'm paranoid but I see Microsoft co-opting the ALT.NET movement before it even hits the ground, I know one thing, I'll be off the approved speaker list faster than you can blink an eye. I hope I'm wrong but probably not. ;) I feel a blog post coming on tonight, a real rage against the macine ;(

LOL, sorry, no I was just commenting on the "the Geek Code generator put together by Scott Hanselman." I have a lot of hopes for ALT.NET and just hate to see Microsoft employees creating lists of ALT.NET technologies that list mostly other Microsoft technologies (as is true in our category). I think I have a different opinion than some folks, I view the ALT part as "Alternative" and see that evaporation somewhat but for the movement even gets moving .... Just ignore me, I work too many hours ....

Good article otherwise by the way.

Microsoft trying to steer the ALT.NET movement (the combat badge). I wonder how long it will be before Microsoft owns their meetings too? I'm speaking at the Indy ALT.NET meeting this Thursday though I've been banned for life from the microsoft groups. So he lists SubSonic (Microsoft now), and then a bunch of LINQ technologies and NHibernate under "Object Relational Mapper/Data Access Layer". I tried to email him on that page but it was going to cost me money just to email him, sheese. I wonder how long before ALT.NET is crushed under by the IMSM?

Very cool, I used to use the IOCompletionPort API in the pre .NET days, if they are opening this back up that would be a good thing, thanks for the post.

EntitySpaces is a "Persistence Layer and Business Object System for Microsoft .NET" much like SubSonic, NHibnerate, LLGLGen and so on. We support Oracle, MySQL, PostgreSQL, Microsoft SQL, VistaDB, and Microsoft Access, we run on .NET and Mono, all kinds of wireless devices via the .NET Framework, we have very nice proxies for WCF and and alike, we'll be posting a cool demo of EntitySpaces working in conjunction with Silverlight as well. We use either MyGeneration or CodeSmith to reverse engineer you objects in just a minute or so including a complete hierarchical model and we use zero reflection. What folks love the most is our DynamicQuery API ...

I thought a little off topic stuff might be fun (sorry)

Whats the difference between kicking a story on Graffiti verses others going goo-goo ga-ga over every new technology that Microsoft comes out with as some are in the manner to do? Suppose a person loves cool cars, he might tell his friends about them, send his friends url links to checkout, and he doesn't even let the fact that the cars aren't given away for free stop him? Where is it written that DotNetKicks is about free software only?

Thanx man, we were thinking of upgrading, we host on Discount too, man am I glad you posted this, thanks

Nobody complaigns on the SubSonic posts? If a company cannot post about their own product on DotNetKicks I completely understand and will no longer post here. Thank you for the heads up.

Amen

See also http://www.entityspaces.net/blog/2007/09/20/EntitySpacesAddsJoinsAndArithmeticExpressionsII.aspx

Spammers almost always use numbers in the their user names

If it did I'd be extremely rich, believe me.